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within the republican party, and once that 113th convenes the president can institute obama tax cuts, and sort of dare the republican party not to vote for, you know, a new round of obama tax cuts. politically the president holds those but it's more important than that. the american people, after looking at options presented to them reclearly with a return of president obama to the white house, or initiating mitt romney presidency, chose a return of president obama to the white house and therefore gave him a very clear mandate to hold the line on the question of entitlements there when it comes to talking about entitlements, or earned benefits as progressives like to refer to it, what is the way that the president and those on the left can look and also appear to the right to be willing to compromise? what can they put on the table, if anything? >> well, i just don't think that any of us think that it is a reasonable idea to over the course of the next week and a half, over the course of the holiday season, for the president and this congress, which is a lame duck congress, to engage
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
taxing on the rich. obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. obama wants to eliminate deductions and close loopholes plus cut spending for entitlement programs. the president has said there can't be tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the domestic program which is frustrating for some republicans. >> this president, i think the president with president obama he's a small minded president in big times. he is talking about 35 verses 39.6 for people who make over a million dollars. that doesn't get us out of debt. >> both sides will be taking their plan to the public this week they will meet with governors for state business he's meeting with the governors today. john boehner will be with governors plus conduct rallies with small business owners. we don't know if these two sides are going to reach an agreement any time soon and the fiscal cliff is past approaching. >> thank you very much. we are going to keep with the fiscal cliff and take a look at who is talking. charles krauthammer weighing in on the negotiations. the approach on the president and democrats didn't about the e
to break rank, saying he could support president obama's tax proposal. coburn joins a growing chorus of republicans from outside the house of representatives, urging house leadership to clear the way for a broad deal that would include tax increases on the wealthy. however, as we mentioned, according to "the new york times," speaker boehner is enjoying broad support from within his own caucus. and yesterday boehner stuck to his guns, favoring closing tax loopholes and capping deductions. to raising taxes. >> now, the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> so could we just agree right now, everybody around the table, that both sides are talking about tax increases for the rich? >> i think so. >> it's just a difference between do you get tax increases for the rich? do you get the revenue by raising the top rate or by closing loopholes? i mean, that is
clinton. charles crowd hammer says president obama likes those tax rates so much let's let him live with them for everybody. >> what he will say is i wanted to do legislation to exempt the middle class, but the republicans wouldn't give me the bill. he is prepared, megyn, bluntly to sacrifice the interest of the larger whole to win a political fight. when i was working for clinton we did a deal with gingrich. there was never ever a sense that we would put politics ahead of getting a balanced budget. we got it, we won the election and this president is putting politics ahead of everything. megyn: if republicans give president obama the tax rates on the rich what do they have to negotiate with? why would they do it? >> i think president obama has the winning hand. >> he does. >> i'm not sure in the long term -- if there is a recession, either there won't be a recession or there will and the republicans will get the blame. that's and high wire act to do at this point. it's very risky from this kind of elect to take this. he could get 85% of what he wanted -- >> he's also gambling on on
is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy for raising the age for eligibility for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, are we that far apart in. >> i think they are definitely rather far aare part at this moment in time. yeah, absolutely. >> so there are so many ways that any of this could affect the average tack payer, obviously if taxes go up. but what about funding to states and localities. i know that one of the things that they are concerned about is that when you make cuts, that essentially those cuts are going to come on their budgets. what could happen in a meeting like thi
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
, listen, from obama's opening offer, i was able to salvage the estate tax rates. i was able to salvage the dividends tax rates. i was able to shave off 400 to $500 billion in tax hikes that the president wanted. and on top of that, i was able to secure a promise to do comprehensive tax reform within a year. all from the president's first offer. wouldn't that be at least a little bit palatable to some of the republicans in the caucus? >> i think your word choice is perfect, a little bit palatablp. >> that's all they need. >> the attitude of let's make specific concessions now with regard for other concessions to come down the road, that player to be named later you hear about in trades. i think you're going to get enormous apt of skepticism in the house gop caucus to that. because they feel they've seen this movie before. when you were showing the footage of durbin and boehner, i thought it was footage from the debt ceiling argument. >> but isn't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm
start off that obama spoke to a manufacturer facility today. he quoted not raising taxes on the wealthy and keeping taxes high on the middle class basically giving the middle class a lump of coal for christmas. also in the meantime biden went to costco. he had a little bit of a shopping spree. >> costco hires 260 employees in the one store. part of a renaissance of the whole neighborhood out here. consumer confidence is growing and the last thing we need to do is dash that now by being unable to expend the tax cuts. >> obama: joe biden was in costco. he wanted to buy some of this stuff, but i told him he had too much work to do. i wasn't going to have him building roller coasters all day long. >> cenk: and then i handed him in a pen. >> my favorite reality show on television is joe biden in costco. there was not one sample that he didn't take. >> he's like a kid at costco. >> so it's interesting. that's the first costco that opened up in d.c. and of course, there are a lot of people excited about it, and people want to go and check it out. when you look at the way costco treats its work
that now by being unable to expend the tax cuts. >> obama: joe biden was in costco. he wanted to buy some of this stuff, but i told him he had too much work to do. i wasn't going to have him building roller coasters all day long. >> cenk: and then i handed him in a pen. >> my favorite reality show on television is joe biden in costco. there was not one sample that he didn't take. >> he's like a kid at costco. >> so it's interesting. that's the first costco that opened up in d.c. and of course, there are a lot of people excited about it, and people want to go and check it out. when you look at the way costco treats its workers that's where the real story is, right? especially when you care costco to walmart. first let me tell you warehouse workers in southern california have petitioned to include wal-mart as a defendant in a lawsuit about wages. theythe average costco worker makes $17 an hour. and average wage for walmart work is $8.81 an hour. >> cenk: that is an enormous difference. costco is not out of business. they're profitable and per employee, this gives you a sense of size, per em
obama offered up cuts in the -- cuts in the tax increases that helped bring the deficit in the first place but he's already clocked out around $2 trillion in spending cuts and interest decreases over the next ten years. now, as we know, the republicans have run and beaten the democrats on this idea that they're going to cut things, that they're going to find waste and eliminate it. well guys, now is your chance! step up to the microphone. what exactly are the cuts? it is funny. we're not hearing anything from these guys after they talked about it for so long. >> stephanie: exactly. that's what the white house is saying. the ball is in the republican's court. we're four weeks from the slope hill ramp. boehner -- republicans have a plan for providing as much as $800 billion in new government revenue over the next decade and we considered the elimination of tax deductions on high-income earners but when pressed for details, he declined to say. >> we've got a plan but i can't explain it to you because you wo
's taxes are scheduled to go up. and unless we fix that, paradoxically president obama becomes the defender of the bush tax cut for 98% of the people and he is he no such thing. >> bottom line is both sides are still laying out the same ideas they have been doing for weeks now. today irskin bowls one of the key budget experts says he believes there is a two thirds chance that he wool go off the fiscal cliff. that's not too optimistic tonight, shep. >> shepard: not at all. ed henry live on the north lawn. the president is sending one of his top negotiators to capitol hill tomorrow to meet with congressional leaders from both parties. mike emanuel is live for that part. is he live on the hill tonight. what's the latest on the talks. >> there is always hope for tomorrow that's when treasury secretary tim geithner come up here to capitol hill to have individual meetings with the top four lawmakers. one of them nancy pelosi, the house democratic leader who was asked earlier today about spending cuts. >> i think it's important to note that we have already agreed to over a trillion and a half doll
a competitive tax system and i think our slow going economy under president obama says we don't. >> the new york times though makes a mention of, just a sort of a passing mention in this massive article, by the way, about the need to cut spending like one or two sentences about the need-- >> and i think that milton freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies to create an intellectual justification to raise taxes and in this case, they use the reagan years and often wen
the stimulus package. he said, this is the lesson he learned. now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my re
beyond the tax date or just with those under $250,000 that president obama and democrats want. what is the best way to compromise for americans across the board? >> first you have to understand, that is politics as usual. even if the republicans gave in on this, on this 2% of the population getting taxed at a higher rate that basically pays for the budget deficit for three days. we are living with a $16 trillion deficit. so the republicans are going to have to compromise. democrats, white house, they have to come to a mutual agreement where an increase in taxes, a decrease in the amount of benefits that people receive, we need a real major compromise. we hope to god they do that zbleeh. >> heather: will they do it or not do. >> heather: will they do it? >> they no compromise. 50% chance they come to compromise that kicks the football into next year where the new congress will run with it. and possibly, 20% chance that nothing at all happens. we do think they will come up with some kind of temporary solution getting us through december 31. >> heather: we'll see what happens. >> gregg
president obama's deal and allow the bush-era tax cuts on the wealthy to expire for now. so tax cuts for the middle class can stay in effect. but house speaker john boehner remains opposed, saying a tax hike on the wealthy will hurt the economy. >>> today, president obama is hosting mitt romney at the white house for a private lunch. after the election, the president promised to reach out to romney for his ideas. >>> and overseas, the u.s. could be getting more involved in the civil war in syria. "the new york times" is reporting the obama administration is considering options, including arming the rebel fighters there who have made progress in recent days in battling bashar al assad's forces. >>> and more trouble for president obama's expected nominee for secretary of state. susan collins says she will not back rice for the job, until more questions on the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya are answered. collins said if president obama nominates senator john kerry instead, he would have no trouble winning confirmation. >>> and breaking news out of new york. lindsay lohan has been
.91 a barrel. we'll be right back tracy: so president obama continuing to push tax hikes on the rich as part of the big fiscal cliff deal but will raising taxes on the wealthy actually help the government in covering its debts? i'm thinking not. liz macdonald is here with her bottom line. >> take a wild guess. if you raise rate on two top brackets how much does it bring in? it brings in '82 billion. guess how much in terms of government spending in term of time frame it covers, a month, a year? ashley: five minutes? >> pretty close, ashley. look at this. ashley: what is it? >> covers 1 1/2 weeks of government spending at current rates. ashley: that's it. >> when we talk about the fair share, tracy and ashley, you never hear the president say this what the top 1% pay. in other words what their fair share. look at this, 37% of the top 1% is responsible for in terms of personal income tax revenue. they pay, they earn just one fifth, just one fifth of adjusted gross income. moving along top 5%, nearly 60% of the personal income tax revenue. ashley: comes from the top 5%. >> top five%. they earn
passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants and it would essentially lay the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like the packers better. remember to answer tonight's question question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats need to raise the eligibility age for medicare? obama care architect dr. zeke manual joins me to talk about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... t
is a story titled online sales tax debate grows. states could collect revenue from out of state internet retailers. states can only bring in sales taxes from companies located within their borders. >>> fresh criticism of president obama and susan rice over the september 11th attacks in bengha benghazi. they got a vote of confidence at a cabinet meeting this past week. >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done. >> she appears to be the top candidate to replace hillary clintons a secretary of state. but could gop opposition change that. joining me is adam shif who said it's unfair to go after rice for information given to her by the cia. so your take on her chance of being approved by the senate. is this worth it to the president? >> i think she would be an extraordinary secretary of state. he ought to go forward and nominate her. it wouldn't be a slam dunk, but she's a strong candidate and would be confirmed. and when you look at the criticism of her, it's so completely unjustified. no one is critiquing her job as ambassador where she organized the sanction
that that has meaning anymore. in 2001 and 2003 we did do some dramatic changes to tax policy. president obama extended all of those changes in 2010. that's the law of the land still today. tax policy has been exactly the same over this continuum. what has changed, mr. speaker, what has changed is the spending. the reason deficits have grown not one, not two, not three but almost four times larger than the previous record deficit in american history is not because tax policy has changed, it hasn't. it's because federal spending policy has changed. and that's what we have to get our arms around here in this body. what i show going forward, mr. speaker, put a little square around the annual budget deficits that have been run during the first four years of the obama administration, but i also project what the congressional budget office believes, that's a nonpartisan budget planning group we have here on capitol hill, what they believe is in store for us in the future if we continue under current policy. -h tsh-that's trillion dollar deficits going out for years to come. the problem is not tax po
his taxes spike if the obama plan passes. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. our company has figured out how to survive in this economy and how to be successful in this economy. the first thing we'll want to do with any income that i have is tax it? that's uncertainty. >> kristen welker is at the white house. critics said the president wasn't pushing a bald deal focusing more on taxes than spending. now the white house is out with its formal debt proposal which mitch mcconnell says he laughed at when tim geithner showed to him. what's so funny? >> reporter: to put the plan into context, first of all, this is the president's opening bid. and essentially comes after he's feeling emboldened by his re-election knowing there's not a whole lot in here that republicans will like off the bat. so just to take a look he it specifics, $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in entitlement cuts. $50 billion in new stimulus. and then a proposal to end congress' control of the debt limit. republicans
taxes to that. tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically what grover nor 0 quist is saying there to the members of the tea party who were elected, have been elected, we'll take everybody who is against us into a primary on the right on the republican side. >> right. >> and so the threat has been issued already. >> that was the point. >> this is like political terrorism. >> well, it's certainly a clear bargaining position. i remember talking to a longtime member of the house running for the senate we were talking about something else, and i said is it worse than when you came in, which was in the late '80s? and he said the central difference is in the caucus, the republican kcaucus. the fear is not a democratic challenge, it's a primary challenge. it's the first time i heard the verb to be primaried. you can ask senator lugar about this. it's real. it's becoming increasingly difficult to cast one or two compromise votes even early on because of this he cecho chambe that kicks in and, to me, what's so scary about it is the president's second term
when it comes to taxes and entitlements. in a meeting with middle class americans yesterday, president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> and i'll go anywhere and i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. now's the time for us to work on what we all agree to which is let's keep middle class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american people deserve. >> the white house is also turning to social media in a new twitter hash tag to spread his message. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean you to. call your members of congress. write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using th the #my2k. not y2k, #my2k. >> they showed support for cutting a deal with the president. yesterday the oklahoma republican repeated his belief that congress should start by locking in tax cut
that president obama is getting a little cocky. >> working to get public support for the tax and spending proposal. president obama answered questions on twitter. how will you stop us from going over the fiscal cliff and will it involve significant deficit reduction. the president said i thought twitter was supposed to be fun. where are all of the crazy video. twitter boring. >> gretchen: it is an interesting concept instead of spending time twittering why not go and lead the discussion between the parties. >> steve: or the president went golfing three or four times . it would be great if he went golfing with john boehner. >> gretchen: as hong as they don't ask. here are the headlines. a scare for franky muniz who rose to fame for malkare olm in the middle. >> it is the video . desense -- desensitized to violence. how many have you had. >> gretchen: the 26 year old recovering after suffering from a min i stroke. they are awaiting results. they noticed that nuniz had trouble understanding word and speaking. >> brian: he has to take better care of himself. >> steve: meanwhile, a mother coul
. well, 28 days to go until tax cuts expire for most americans if president obama and congress can't cut a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the
that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again. >> governor, it is nice to see you again. >> jennifer: all right. so do you think republicans have recovered from losing the election? >> well, i think we have. i think there's no question that although president obama got less of the popular vote than he did the last time around, his electoral college numbers went up. he won. but the other thing that i would say to you governor, is senate republicans, the american people voted for the status quo. they kept the republicans running the majority in the house of representatives to keep a check on the executive branch and so while we did take a shellacking in the presidential election, we still ha
for one thing statistically that held them. they are the low tax party. the other guys want to tax to match their reckless spending. if they give it up now in return for nothing, obama wins and high wins big. i understand why the democrats are doing this. they imagine that republicans have no bargaining power today . i say that it is true if republicans resist they will take the blame and that will help democrats in the congress. but obama's never running again. he doesn't care who gets the blame. he is the president and a blame duck. he wants a successful second term. if it starts by going over the cliff it starts with second recession and wrecked second term. >> steve: that's why the president said i would be willing to do anything to get a deal. >> gretchen: it is not a deal. this is what the american public needs to know. this is raising taxos successful people and reducing taxes on the middle class. that is not a deal folks. they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this
leadership says he thinks president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff by proposing higher taxes, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what repu
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
expect those cuts to be made. given the obama victory on november 6th, democrats sense they have somewhat of a mandate to increase taxes on wealthy as we all heard. you hear much less about cutting government spending. to make matters worse, citizens sense government waste, congress, especially senate where most members are committee chairman or subcommittee chairman are inate bias against cutting government spending. this is tom schatz. >> they don't want to give up power, jurisdiction or the money. it is also a lot easier for members of congress to run back home and say i'm fixing this problem by spending money. i'm not fixing the problem by solving the problem, and providing the benefits that people need. >> reporter: cutting spending and attending to constituent needs are often very much in conflict, jenna. jenna: we heard a lot of different strategies, haven't we, doug, the ways to tackle the debt and deficit. is there any alternative that really exists besides cutting government waste and spending? >> reporter: one potential avenue they could take would be to actually fall off the f
of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter: speaker boehner offered the republican proposal this week and now he faces opposition from president obama. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: some in his own party are lining up against him. jim demint a tea party leader said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. disagreements among republicans and democrats here on capitol hill is nothing new, but tuesday a republican aide told us the two sides aren't even talking. not surprisingly the white house disagrees. >> i can guarantee you conversations continue at different levels. and among different groups. >> reporter: both parties are ready to play the blame game in case negotiations fail. >> there's only one person out of 370 million americans who can sign something into law and that's the president. >> 60% of americans are asking the wealthy to pay more. >> reporter
-called fiscal cliff and president obama making his case to raise taxes on the rich while john boehner, the speaker of the house opens negotiating. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you, for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want the tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? that, that doesn't make sense. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy that needs to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. and we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> clayton: so with all of that, the white house saying they're unwilling to compromise on tax likes for the wealthy, where do we go from here. >> juliet: let's ask dana perino, currently on "the five" fox news channel. >> how are you. >> a great so-so far, lots of calories on that table out there. >> dave: speaking of ugly, how was the offer fro
class tax cuts. probably didn't hurt that the cofounder of costco was a big obama contributor. before he left, he used the phone of his cart driver, ivy student, to call her grandmother and leave a message. ivy was so moved but the whole experience, she wiped away tears. >> thanks for shopping with me and i know you won't tell anybody what i bought for christmas. >> here's a hint from nat king cole's classic. the "huffington post" held a caption contest for joe biden's checkout photo. our favorite, stopped by for some fire logs. went home with a flag screen tv. 32 inches. jeanne moos, cnn. ♪ new york. >> we should take cameras around when you do your holiday shopping. you do like costco. way too many products for me. i can't do it. that's right. big news for you. this just in. the missouri lottery will announce the winners of last night's record $578.5 million jackpot tomorrow. those winners will be splitting the jackpot with a ticketholder in arizona. that person has not yet come forward. last night's prize is a largest in power ball history and yes, wolf blitzer flew to missouri over
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the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama proposing a plan that calls for a $1.6 trillion in tax increases over ten years. what's lacking is details on spending cuts. after weeks of talking, republicans saying the president is not meeting them halfway. >> there is a tail mate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. you watched me over the last three weeks, i've been very guarded in what i have to say because i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. >> arthel: is the president looking to pick a fight with the gop and does he want to go over the fiscal cliff? joining us live now, susan estridge and fox news contributor. good to sigh. >> good to see you, art. >> arthel: so is it preposterous or practical to think that president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff? >> you know, art, i got to believe that at the end of the day, nobody wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i mean, the one thing we know that came out of this election, this very close election, was that people want b
an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. full stop. >> bill: full stop. >> this is what i don't get about this. this is not some new idea. this is not something that obama is you know, pulling out of the clear blue sky. it is something he ran on. this is what the election was about. >> bill: and the people voting. >> overwhelmingly. >> bill: we have to go back to the beginning. these tax cuts were enacted by george w. bush in 2001. still a bad idea then, i believe. at any rate, we had a surplus. it was sold to the american people because we have a surplus, we ought to give money back. we'll have the tax cuts across the board which benefitted mostly the wealthiest of americans. we knew that at the time. they were adopted as a temporary measure. what part of temporary doesn't john boehner understand? what part of temporary don't these republicans understand, right? i mean what is it about suddenly suddenly, it's become gospel. it is sacrosanct that you can never raise tax on the richest of american
avoiding the fiscal cliff. new polling suggests support for president obama's position in the standoff with congressional republicans. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check her life line. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills and, i mean, you know, that's for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she is not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people out of work more than 26 weeks.
in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over
the middle class tax cuts. you could see more republicans get there. and that's why i'm really glad president obama is not negotiating both for himself and for the republicans, which was sometimes his habit the last time. he's basically saying you want a bunch of cuts i don't have. don't make me propose them. that's creating some pressure on them. i think both those things will have an effect. we'll get the taxes back if we do nothing. >> the conversation in washington being separate from what it feels like the real needs of the country, a familiar feeling for me. i often have this frustration that the beltway discussion is not what the important questions are that are facing the country. in this case, i feel like as long as we're willing to talk about the economic needs of the country, as long as we're willing to talk about fiscal policy, how can it be we're not talking about new stimulus. the republicans ran against that as if the stimulus was this awful thing. but the republicans lost and we have an economic growth problem now. i wonder if you see signs of hope in what the president is ask
republicans well in previous budget negotiations. but the no-taxes-ever-bulwark has not served the country well. and obama would be remiss not to try. go ahead, eugene. >> obama has talked about -- he phrased it as breaking the fever, i think, at one point. this sort of solid wall of adamanting opposition to any sort of tax rate increase ever in the house has been seen as a problem to him from day one. and coming off the election, he's in a stronger political position than he's been in before. his incentive is not to rush into the room, his strength is out among public opinion where that's friendlier terrain for him. whereas once they get in the room, of course, republicans still have power, still have control of the house. >> yeah. >> so there's no great incentive for him to rush to compromise at this point. >> gene, why is -- why is raising the top marginal rate so important to the president as well as liberals across america? why -- explain why the is that so important? >> well -- >> and i'm talking specifically the top marginal rate. not taxes on the rich. because the rich have been sk
. >> reporter: president obama travels to hatfield, pennsylvania, where he will turn up pressure with republicans to increase taxes on wealthier americans, after a show of bipartisanship. the president inviting mitt romney to the white house on thursday. with washington deadlocked, president obama reached out to his former rival, inviting mitt romney to lunch at the white house, aiming to put past differences to rest. >> i think that he's very interested in some of governor romney's ideas. >> reporter: romney arrived shortly after noon thursday. white house officials revealed few details about the lunch, saying only they ate white turkey chili, and the meeting lasted more than an hour, with governor romney congratulating the president on re-election. in the sole picture released by the white house, you can see the dining room where the men ate and boxing gloves. aides joked there were no punches thrown describing the encounter as friendly. >> i am happy to see this picture, it is good for the american people. >> reporter: a very different tone on capitol hill as fiscal cliff nego
's right. house republicans say there will be no deal if tax ritz go up and the obama administration says it's ready to go thelma and louise style over the cliff on january 1. if that's the case, wendell goler live at the white house with what we know is going on behind the scenes. anything happening? >> steve, the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone yesterday, but they agreed not to characterize their conversation. so it's unclear how much progress they made. from the outside, it does seem they've moved a bit closer with boehner now agreeing to raise tax collection from the wealthy, though not by raising tax rates. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe to put revenues on the table. the revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich! there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> the president lobbied big business leaders yesterday with an appearance at the business round table. his aide
. president obama continues to insist any deal must include a tax break increase on the top 2% of wage earners, which republicans, we well know, just as firmly insist, that is a nonstarter in these cliff negotiations. another element to this fight now, which is important, is the debt ceiling. it's likely the country will come up against that marker again early next year, laying the groundwork for another potentially bitter, bruising, and damaging battle between congress and the white house. we know how well that went last summer when we filed a debt ceiling fight. the proposal offered by treasury secretary timothy geithner last week to republicans would change the rules as it relates to the debt ceiling, giving more power to the president and making it harder for congress to block a debt ceiling increase in the future. the president clearly wants to take the threat of this continued fight on the debt ceiling off the table. listen to the president yesterday. >> if congress, in any way, suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once aga
this morning, but let's start with that big story that joe was just talking about. president obama speaking to the business round table today, attending to the group's quarterly meeting of ceos. jim mcnerny says including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. this is the number one story that we've been talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody contin
and democrats in congress to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates to go up on upper income folks. >> reporter: mr. obama's opening bid includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue. half from higher rates in the wealthy. cuts in medicare and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. when tim geithner laid out the plan for mitch mcconnell, aides on both sides said mcconnell burst out in laughing. house republicans offered a somber assessment. >> this is not a game. >> it was not a serious proposal. and right now, we're almost nowhere. >> reporter: lester, there is the inside game in washington and the outside game of public pressure that the president is trying to apply. he continues both of those this week. he meets with governors at the white house and more business ceos trying to get congress to move the votes in the house of representatives and get something done before january 1st. lester. >> mike, thanks so much. >>> still to come, charges dismissed against the u.s. open tennis ref who is accused of killing her husband. why the court decided to drop the case. >>> and discoun
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